Narrator: Viewers you are all welcome in News Dnn’s special presentation: Sahaj Yoga a unique Discovery and gift to mankind. This journey was started by Param Pujya Shri Nirmala Devi in 1970, we are trying to bring those people who have got spiritual and social and mental peace. We will share with you and we hope that somehow in any time of your life you will get that peace and happiness for which we born as human beings and in this regard today we will be meeting Mr Ramesh a resident of Wardha. Maharashtra. Let us come and listen to how his spiritual journey started and what he has got in this journey?
Interviewer: Viewers you are welcome in News Dnn we are talking about Sahaja Yoga. Our viewers are now sitting in 110 countries who are watching this program continuously and appreciating it and we have received calls regarding the programs. That they also wanted to join this tradition and institution. So friends we have tried to be honest and whoever we are interviewing and discussing with, his phone number is given on the screen. You can yourself contact them. The only objective of this episode, this program is so that your life can become better and better. And in this regard, we will be meeting Mr Ramesh a resident of Wardha Maharashtra. Ramesh ji before starting this discussion, first of all, we wanted to know what did you do professionally? What is your occupational background or your family background?
Mr Ramesh: First of all I am a son of a farmer from Gaya, I did my MSc while working as farmer. And I had a wish of doing research but as the saying goes “doing something is better than nothing” I joined a non-teaching job in Nagpur, and as the rules and regulation kept on changing I did work for 21 years there. And in the first 10 years there was a professor who came to Sahaj yoga, he told me about Sahaj yoga. And maybe due to my condition and I was also confused also, so I spent 10 more years like that. And after 10 years on June 2003 I started Sahaja Yoga, and within 18 months, my inner wish of becoming a professor came true, so within 18 months I came to teach in JB science college in Wardha, there I was appointed as assistant professor.
Interviewer: For 21 years you worked as a non-teaching staff and after coming to Sahaj yoga within 1.5 years you were appointed as an assistant professor. And you feel that it is because of Sahaj yoga?
Mr Ramesh: Absolutely.
Interviewer: How is it possible?
Mr Ramesh: I was a very egoistic person and I never begged in front of anyone. Though my English is not that fluent but during my interview, there was an 70 years old advocate who took my interview, it went for half an hour and I haven’t spoken English before like that and maybe I will not speak English like that in future. And when I came outside after the interview my other ten colleagues who were standing outside they congratulated me there, that interview went so well. And it was all Shri Mataji’s grace and the confidence I had was because of her.
Interviewer: Viewers, Ramesh ji have told us a very important thing in a very simple manner that after joining Sahaj how is his level of ego came down, and a beautiful thing which he described in very simple language that he was a farmer’s son and in that situation he educated himself and for earning his bread and butter he accepted doing a non-teaching staff job. And he spent 21 years with that job. And while spending these years he kept his dream alive. So it was a dream that he has to become a teaching staff and maybe Sahaj yoga emerged as a medium which gives him an opportunity to introspect where he was able to see how important it is to work with society because we all are a social animal. It may happen that the shortcomings that we are seeing in others a little bit of it may be there inside us also. Ramesh ji after coming to Sahaj yoga as you have told now that you had ego, does this ego present professionally or it was there in different aspects of your life?
Mr Ramesh: Well where ego is expected there it came automatically, maybe–
Interviewer: It was part of your personality, so what was the impact of this ego in your family. Because in the family it doesn’t work out like that.
Mr Ramesh: Well because of this ago my family members used to call me very smart, and I was the only educated person there, I was MSc and PhD as there is no one. And with mothers grace my daughter is also an MD doctor, due to this ego– I and my wife are of the same level and after coming to Sahaj I cannot say that my ego was gone but we both put down our argument at one point, which is Shri Mataji. Because meanwhile, anything could happen in our family, that is we had a great ego and no one was ready to stop. And when it reaches a maximum we just stop it there.
Interviewer: Friends there is nothing to say that the relation between husband and wife which is considered as the most delicate relation and if there comes any kind of disturbance in it, will not only It breaks the relation between husband and wife but of the two families also. Not only families but also our children’s life that is our next generation will also suffer because of it and it also affects the society. Ramesh ji had very beautifully described his and his wife’s nature was similar and because of which all the time quarrel happened..
But after coming to Sahaj and walking in that path both of them had a solution and through that solution, they found a way to live their lives in a much better way. Ramesh ji tells us more what differences that you experienced after joining Sahaj yoga. You become assistant professor your life’s biggest dream came true, and the husband and wife relationship got better and this happened because you came to Sahaj yoga. And up to this point viewers now you have known that it is a very simple procedure to do meditation and connect with God. Kundalini awakening and 2 take care of that, this is the one way of Sahaj yoga where we could advance in our lives. Ramesh ji apart from this tell us about other spheres of your life.
Mr Ramesh: The working fields?
Interviewer: The fields where you are having problems.
Mr Ramesh: As such there was not any problematic areas in my life, whatever problems I faced was due to few reasons, 21 years that I spend I didn’t felt any sorrow about it because it was my fault.
Interviewer: And this realization came after you became a Sahaj Yogi.
Mr Ramesh: So I tell my children that to live your student life, but how? Suppose you go near a river you can see water and you may feel the urge to go in the water you just put your legs in it don’t try to flow with it. So this was my example, I was a topper in BSc in college, but I went in a different path or a wrong path while I was pursuing MSc. And because of which I stuck there for 21 years, today what I earn by batchmates are earning more than that. So I want my children that you live your student life but inside a limit.
Interviewer: So that they don’t go in the wrong direction.
Mr Ramesh: I was inclined towards Sahaj because of scientific reasons because I’m from a physics background and physics people are very difficult to convince. And as I am from physics I saw it with the scientific angle and I also talked with people who have blind faith they to become a little angry with me because they hate science and I try to explain to them what is science.
Interviewer: So if we consider that Physics and Sahaj yoga help share the same path.
Mr Ramesh: Very easily. As we put Kumkum in our Indian culture there is a Photoelectric thing in our physics. In Photoelectric effect what happens is that we put a candlelight here from there infrared rays come and we put a filter here, and the property of filter is that it absorbs its colours and transmit all the other colour. So when we put a violet colour filter so we get very high current and when we give red filter we get very low current. And now if we talk about Kumkum which we put it is a great colour so it blocks the infrared rays coming from the sun and didn’t allow it to pass. And therefore in scorching Sun the chances of getting headache is less. And if you see in our village you will see men wearing red turban and women wore only a red Veil.
Interviewer: So it has been proved in Sahaj?
Mr Ramesh: No, actually where there is science there is Sahaj yoga.
Interviewer: Very beautiful, friends very beautiful Ramesh Ji who is an assistant professor in college. Very beautifully he told you one thing that our culture is also very important, whatever we do, whomever we believe at least we should never get disconnected from our roots. Ramesh ji apart from this the changes that you found out in you, the responsibility that you get from Sahaj in this 20-25 years do you feel that you are thinking of spreading this to your students and your other family members?
Mr Ramesh: Everyday of my life begins with the discussion and spreading of Sahaj yoga, but the thing is, it is such a gift that not everyone can have it, one who is lucky he gets it.
Interviewer: But your attemps always go on.
Mr Ramesh: Because if I see myself, I came to Sahaj after 10 years, first I have introduced 10 years ago.
Interviewer: It took you 10 years to understand Sahaj?
Mr Ramesh: Not understanding but to join it. I didn’t get the chance.
Interviewer: To inspire your students to walk down this path as you have established a relationship between science and Sahaj yoga, do you try to make people understand like this about Sahaj yoga and Science?
Mr Ramesh: Yes, yes I have 4-5 students who became Sahaj Yogi. When I went outside to take Practical Examination of any student from other colleges, I took permission from the authorities to talk to them about Sahaja Yoga. And with Shri Mataji’s blessings we keep realisation programs and they too feel good. And later it depends upon them if they want to continue or not.
Interviewer: Absolutely you at least trying your best. Ramesh ji we would like you to give a message to especially those who are connected with physics like who are professionals and the students who are progressing in this field for them what will be your message for Sahaj yoga?
Mr Ramesh: I only want to give one message to all the people who are connected with science that whatever we try to discover and invent they are all in a physical limit. We and all the people relating to science say that there is no existence of God, but no one has tried to found it out. Which we call cosmic energy, that cosmic energy is that Universal consciousness. No one can measure it there is a big project going on upon it, from where it comes, till now it is not known. There is another thing when current is passed we haven’t seen it yet, while it is passing but we can measure it in volts or currents. Likewise, the universal consciousness or [Inaudible 00:13:46] or we call it cool breeze, no scientist has tried to found it out. So only thing which I want to say to the scientific people that only after joining Sahaj yoga they should perform scientific analysis on it and then comment on it.
Interviewer: So viewers he had given a very simple answer that, you can reject anything after accepting it and going into it that will be your personal decision.
And rejecting anything without knowing about is something we believe that it a loss of a chance for you. So, viewers, this was our meeting with Asst. Prof Ramesh Ji who is from Wardha Maharashtra, he is a son of a farmer, and who has started his life in oddity, he struggles with it and that struggle got over after coming to Sahaj yoga. It may happen that there are many people like us who are watching this program and their problem may resemble that of Ramesh Ji, what was the problem? “There is no one above us, what I am doing is right” but Sahaj yoga had given him that softness and situation where he was able to see that “I had faults in me, I had to get rid of that”.
And this was all for today very soon we will be meeting with you with a new guest in next episode until then give us permission to leave, Namaskar.
Narrator: So viewers this our meeting with Ramesh Ji from Wardha, Maharastra. We hope that in this journey we were able to help you with your spiritual progress. Please give us permission to leave. Namaskar.