Narrator: Sahaja Yoga a unique Discovery and gift to mankind. Such a gift and such a Discovery, which made people’s life happier and breaking all the mental barriers give him a life of honesty and a life of spirituality so that he can get peace, and prosperity, so that not only he achieves but inspires others to achieve as a burning lamp helps in lighting thousands of lamps. Let us listen to his journey.
Interviewer: Viewers namaste, you are welcome. A special presentation of News dnn on Sahaj yoga unique Discovery and gift to mankind. A journey in which we meet various people who are associated with Sahaj yoga. The aim is only one that, the way they have made their life beautiful and peaceful and relaxable by joining Sahaj yoga so that in the same way you can do the same. Let us see how a person walking in the path of truth, without renouncing everything.
How he can live a happy and peaceful life? Today in this journey of ours the person who is going to be our fellow traveler is Mr K.K Aggarwal a resident of Delhi. Mr Agarwal, you are very much welcome in News dnn.
Mr K.K. Agarwal: Thank you very much.
Interviewer: In this journey of ours we meet various peoples who are associated with Sahaj yoga with a common objective in mind that how a man can be living in his daily life can lead a happy and peaceful life. If you look at the irony of today’s world that we got everything but while gathering all these things one thing that we missed out was peace and happiness, we are running in a competition and for winning it we are paying a price which we realise when it is too late. Mr Agarwal we did like to know on behalf of our viewers that when your spiritual journey started?
Mr K.K. Agarwal: I came to know about Sahaj yoga on 8th March 1989 when Shri Mataji visited our colony and I came to know about this, and two to three days ago I saw posters and advertisements of Shri Mataji on walls, “Self-realised realisation through awakening of Kundalini” I have been in spirituality since my childhood and I have read many books on spirituality, and I also have read many books on Kundalini. I was surprised by the fact that self-realization and Kundalini awakening can happen in an instant so quickly. So my intellect was not ready to accept this thing. And as this Programme was held in our colony so I thought that I must go and give it a try. And the time was fixed at 6:45 p.m and I reach there 15 minutes prior so that I didn’t miss a bit of it. There were many peoples many of whom were her followers and as they were wearing a batch so it was understandable that they were associated with Sahaja Yoga already.
And Shri Mataji whose pictures and names were there in the poster hasn’t come yet, so I asked the arrangers how much time is left when she will arrive here? they said “you please sit down we didn’t know exactly”. I was sitting there for quite a while, and so I thought that she will come a little later, therefore I decided to go to the house for few minutes as it was just walking distance from there and my wife was along with me, we came to the house. We again came and sat on the very front row so that we can escape the surging crowd that was gathering with passing time. She came and we saw her and really there was a great radiance on her face. And it was very clear that she was a holy woman. And she started her discourses and in the discourses, she talks about chakras and Nadis in details. And we all did meditation for 5-10 minutes. And after that meditation, she asked all of us that, “Anyone who has felt that there was a cold breeze blowing from your hands so please raise your hands” I didn’t feel any awakening or consciousness, and therefore I didn’t raise my hands. I was sitting in the front row, and from the stage, she asked me “Don’t you feel anything?” I said yes I felt but it was “hot sensation, and you have asked that who is feeling cold sensation..” she said “son, it is the same thing” if you are feeling the hot breeze that means the process has been started. She also asked other people about their experiences and they also told about their experiences. And later she asks me to come on the stage and I followed her instruction, she told me to keep both the hands in front of me and stand in front of her and close my eyes and try to feel her on the Crown of my head”, as per her instruction I close my eyes and meditated on that part of the hand. And after 2 to 3 minutes she asked “how you are feeling now?”, but the reality was I didn’t feel anything, but it would be disgraceful to say that I haven’t felt anything there on that stage to a holy person. But the dilemma was how could I speak the falsehood as I haven’t felt anything. So I didn’t give any reply or reaction. And she was later talking to other peoples, I could hear that. As she had told me to close my eyes, so I was closing my eyes.
After a few times, she told me “okay, speak”. Although there was a slight change in me which I could feel, but it wasn’t something special to be praiseworthy. She understood that, and after past 20 to 30 seconds she again asked: “now you say”. And while she did that, at that moment my entire body was filled with a certain energy I was feeling Goosebumps. I was completely at peace, in fact, I had no urge to open my eyes, so I kept standing in that position. And doctor Talwar came behind me and instructed me to go to my sit. I told him “what was his problem?” because I do not want to let it go the happiness that I was feeling. Also because of the fact that it was our colony and how can an outsider come and instructed me to go from there.
So Shri Mataji understood, and she asked me “Son do you want to ask anything” there were few things that I wanted to ask her but peoples in the audience have asked her beforehand and she also give their answer. So I wanted to ask her some other questions. The Guru that which I had earlier when I ask him that there is a nerve in my Ajna chakra that flickers, well I didn’t know the name of chakras at the time. He told me not to share this fact with anyone it could let my hidden energy go away.
So Spontaneously I asked this question to Shri Mataji, but she replied that it is very bad indication that your Ajna Chakra is in some trouble. And I was thinking what my Guru had told me was something opposite. Because here when she was describing the chakras and she said that “one should not meditate on Ajna Chakra” as this was the place where our Ida and Pingla changes direction.
Interviewer: When Shri Mataji was giving her discourses on the chakras and that time you didn’t have understood anything about it?
Mr K.K. Agarwal: I had absolutely no knowledge of Chakras.
Interviewer: If we talk about new people, our objective is to send your message to new peoples when these things are taught for the first time it is not easy to understand. But then also your association with Sahaj happened what is the reason?
Mr K.K. Agarwal: Because the sensation that I had on that day. And after this situation, she also told me many more things and she gave the treatment for this problem. It is a long story so I like to make it short, then she told me to bring Ghee that she will induce vibrations in it and you will apply it there, so I had done that. Her program was going on consecutively and I had attended all her programs. She told me that “Son you must attend my programs”.
So I and my wife went to all her programs. And the experiences that I was having was really very unique and I couldn’t believe those experiences my brain and the intellect was not ready to accept that the human body can have such changes instantly. The changes that I was having in my body, I couldn’t sleep at night as I could always see Shri Mataji’s face all the time. And it was as if I was having a discussion with her through out the night. But after waking up in the morning I had no exhaustion.
Normally in our daily routine if in one night there is a disturbance in sleeping the next morning we feel a little exhausted. And another amazing thing is that I have been a great devotee of Radha and Krishna and we used to visit Vrindavan twice or even thrice a year. So after seeing me, Shri Mataji had told me that “Are you a Krishna Bhakt”. And I was thinking how could she know about that? and she also said that “Your Vishuddhi is also in trouble son”.
Interviewer: And you didn’t know about Vishuddhi back then?
Mr K.K. Agarwal: No absolutely not, only on that day in that lecture I came to know about all these things, that we have Vishuddhi Chakra in our throat and whose deity is Shri Krishna. She said “Look, son, you are a devotee of Shri Krishna, and he is not much happy with you, your prayer is not reaching to him properly” and unless your devotion reaches that god you will not get the fruit. So she gave me ghee that would free my Ajna Chakra, and I had sleepless night and in the morning I go to the Radha Krishna temple which we had in our home, I sat and started crying there. I said to Shri Krishna ” on the one hand she is telling that you are not happy with me, on the other hand, you are there here in our house in this Temple, whom should I listen” am I being hypnotized? and who knows that our kundalini awakens or not and we lose everything that we had already.
Interviewer: The path you are walking it might be the wrong and it may happen that the thing you already had you might lose them.
Mr K.K. Agarwal: So for the next four to five days my entire concentration was on this fact that should I continue with this or not. I used to wake up in the morning and went to attend Shri Mataji’s programs. I used to reach 15 minutes before the program gets started and I used to stay there until she is finished her lectures and went away. I used to watch her and used to think that it would be great to invite her to our house like other peoples used to invite big spiritual people. One day I wrote a letter and there were few questions like I am a Krishna Bhakta I don’t know did I have the realisation or not? my Kundalini is awakened or not? But since last 4 to 5 days that I am attend your programs and lectures the daily routine of worshipping Lord Sri Krishna at my home is now stopped. And I used to see you everywhere. So please tell me what is this? and I want you to come to our house and have the lunch there.
So I wrote this letter and took it to the program and before I could hand over this letter to her, while giving lecture she said that “there are many people who want me to go to their house. Now you think that if I accept all of your invitations and I go to your house then how much time will it take to cover all the invitations, as you can see there are thousands of people, it might take me years and years. So, son, I am in your Sahasrara, and if you want to meet me then meet me in meditation in Sahasrara. And I am Krishna, I am Ram and I am the Hanuman and in any form, you want you can see me.”
I was thinking the letter that I wanted to give her, she had answered all the questions in any way, now this letter is redundant. Then I came to the house, and at night I went to the Mandir we had in our house where there is the idol of Radha and Krishna which were placed there after doing the Pran Pratishtha ceremony by worshipping and following the rituals with fire sacrifice carried out by pandits. So there I started crying and was saying “oh God please clear my doubt, have I gone to a wrong place? is it possible that I might get tangled in this? Is something fishy?” and in night when I sleeping that same Idol came in my dream and said “Son, I myself have sent you there and you are in right direction and she is mother of all”. When that Idol had come and said all these things then I got to believe that it was really miracle, my heart which was distracted for all these days, now I’m sure that I’m in the right direction.
Now I started investigating the followers who were around her in order to see if they were also holy and true people. I am a very doubtful person and until I am very much sure about something I do not believe it blindly. So there were two-three centres near us, I went there and talk to them. One day it happened that they came with a bucket full of water, and after mixing the salt they told me to keep my feet inside it for a few times. And straightening my both hands in front of the picture of mother they told me to concentrate on the Crown of the head. And while I was meditating a person sat behind me, I was feeling a realisation in my hand and I could remember the realisation that I had on the very first day on the stage in front of Mataji, though it was not that severe but there was something which I was feeling. When I had this feeling of breeze coming out of my hands I looked behind me to check if that person was blowing the wind. And he said, “what happened Agarwal Ji?” I told him to switch off the ceiling fans, it was summer then also I had this feeling of cool breeze coming out of my hands. And from that day onwards I was very much sure that she was an extraordinary/ superhuman being. And even today also I have the same feeling.
Interviewer: Agarwal ji, it is said that a person can forsake any addiction but there is one which is not easy to forsake: it’s religion.
And all the rituals he does, we all know down the line there is always a fear factor in our faith in God which is more than the love we have for him. There is a fear that if we don’t worship what might happen? Many peoples do worshipping but their objective and motive is always fear. You were a devotee of Radha Krishna and there came a period of transition where you got very much interested in Sahaj. You got to know about Shri Mataji and that too very suddenly, there was no planning and no one have told you about it, and standing at that point. Didn’t fear entered your heart that “If I abandon the worshipping of Shri Radha Krishna what might happen?”
Mr K.K. Agarwal: Whatever you are telling is true. But there was no fear in my heart because the experience that I had in those four-five days, the incidents that happened to me, so my faith got more solid. And I am stubborn in my faith as I’m in my doubt, because I know that if I got the truth I should not forsake the truth. And I had this notion in my heart that maybe God had granted what I had always been saying with my small school going children, we had a ritual that before dinner we used to sit together and sing bhajan Keertan.
अब प्रभु कृपा करहु एहि भाँति। सब तजि भजनु करौं दिन राती॥
(Now, my Lord, do me this favour that I may renounce all and worship You night and day.)
यह वर मांगहु कृपा निकेता। बसहु ह्रदय सिया अनुज समेता।
(I ask only this boon oh merciful one, that it you, maa sita and your younger brother may reside in my heart)
This is a Chaupai(Quatrain) is from Ramayana. And when I meet Mataji after that I feel that the thing what I was asking for sitting with my kids, maybe it is finally granted, and idols of Krishna and Radha came to my dream and assured mean that I was in the right direction, then is this boon given by them? I was sure that I was alright, and the doubt I had that about leaving the religion was, in fact, turned out to be a promotion.
Spirituality was always there since my childhood when I was small, the school went near that was a Dharamshala(Hospice) where books like Shrimad Bhagwat, Ramayan were read. So I wish to sit in that window near to that Dharamshala so that I could listen them. There was a very celebrated Gujarati Saint Maharaj he used to give discourses on Bhagavad and I used to listen to those lectures and I was on 7th or 8th standard at that time.
Interviewer: There is always been that urge to find God that liking was always there.
Mr K.K. Agarwal: And so, immediately it strikes my mind that what I have desired is now fulfilled. So I give mine 100% in this. And there hasn’t been a day passed by when I had not experienced some miracle. Now if I go on to tell all those spectacular things then it will be a big book, like this. Every day there was some miracle…
Interviewer: There are few things related to the daily life, which might help our viewers and if you could.. as we say that when we are blessed with God’s grace then that should reflect on our daily life. Was there happen something different in your daily life after you joined Sahaj yoga.
Mr. K.K. Agarwal: Big difference, as I was in love with Sahaja Yoga, the office that I was working in, our work used to purchase goods from factories and sell them in market, my cousin used to work as manager in that office, and in last 5 years I was always engaged in going to Sahaj programs and lectures and even I used to practice this at home, so the bliss was such that I had very less desire to go to the office. He used to come in morning and would take the keys from me and not go to the office and I used to communicate with him via phone, I would give instructions and get all the details of how much things were sold. So after joining Sahaj yoga, my goods used to sell more than before.
Interviewer: Whereas you are not giving much time like before.
Mr K.K. Agarwal: You couldn’t believe me that I didn’t go to the office for two months continuously. The businessman, distributors our main supplier they used to call me and ask me about my health, like “Agarwal Ji are you ok, are you sick?” or “Does anyone stay away from home for so many days? Why you are not coming to office?” then I had to reply, “no I am ok, I am actually doing some special work” I could not tell him that I was doing Sahaj yoga if I had told him he would advise me “so what? one should not neglect business” and I regarded this as a special gift that God has bestowed on me that my business is running well, my well-wishers my relatives and my neighbours they started asking me “What you are doing nowadays? We heard that you are not attending office” but the happiness and peace that I was feeling inside I could not describe to them with words. So I said them” See, the manager I had is very efficient and he is looking after the work, our work is basically done via telephone, we are not in retail business” so after that, what might they have to say anyway? When I am, the owner who is saying everything is alright. One day it so happened that, my sister who lives in the same colony his father-in-law came to our house suddenly. He was much elder than my father, before that he didn’t come here even for once. So when he came we welcome him, we make him sit comfortably and offered him tea. So we asked him why he came so suddenly without any prior message?
Sister’s Father-in-law: I actually came to talk with you, I have heard that you are attending some Mataji’s lecture. And you’ve got entangled in their trap, and for many months you are not visiting your office, what is going on?
Your age is not for all these things, your children are young. First look after them and when they are grown up and they are well established, then take the Sanyas.
Mr K.K. Agarwal: Then I realised the matter is going out of proportions. So I didn’t answer him directly, instead I called my wife and requested her to say to him, that when I used to go to Mata Ji, did you accompany me? or I go alone? So she said “Yes I also accompany him”. Then I asked her “do I take you all the time or only once” she replied “no, every time, whenever you went” then I told her to go.
Because I assumed that he was thinking “Who Shri Mataji was, what was her age, what was her nature, what was her character?” so at first I showed him the fact that I was not going alone I was taking my wife with me.
And secondly, about the business, I call my manager and ask him to come to my home my office is around 20 to 15 minutes walking distance from my home. I live in Saraswati Vihar and our office was in Wazirpur Industrial Area, so he came within 15 minutes, so in Haryanvi language, we call him mausaji, so I asked him to tell the mausaji how business is going in my absence in office? and with the sudden question like this, he got little nervous, he might be thinking “Why sir is asking this question when he knew everything about it?”
So maybe he was waiting for some indication from my side like what to say? so without looking towards him, I said “say what it is, in reality, you have to tell the truth, that business is falling or it is growing, work has increased or decreased, you just answer this to him” so he said “it is better than before”. I asked him again “how much better? little or more?”, so he replied, “the business is going much better”. I asked him about the profit that we are making compared to the profit that we used to make earlier, I asked my manager that “the profit ratio of this month is more or less than previous ones”. And he replied “It is more” and I instructed him to go back to office.
So I said “mausaji, there is nothing like what you are thinking, the business is going very well and I am looking in every aspect of it, and I am not inside any trap” so after seeing this two evidences he was convinced that I was okay, he had no further queries.
So what I think is that if we can pray with a pure heart and we can express our gratitude, all your business and work will be safeguarded by God. And from that day It has been my firm belief that God is always with you.
Interviewer: Mr Agarwal, what difference that you felt?
See every person believes in God and who don’t believe(Atheist) somewhere down the line he also believes in God’s existence and therefore he says that “God” is not there. So when he says “God” is not there then means somewhere he attested the fact that God is there.
So how you see Sahaj different from other religion as we have seen there is no organised system of operations in it. Like which happens in other religion or cult where a head is chosen, who leads the way and there is a process of organisation there are registrations you became a member. And you are told that you have to do this thing and now you have become this. So what is the difference with Sahaj yoga.
Mr K.K. Agarwal: In this Kali yoga or severe Kali Yuga the trend of Guru shopping is going on where Guru starts shopping. They ask for money in the name of the collection or in the name of Bhandara so directly or indirectly we can say that the Guru is shopping. And in Shri Mataji’s lecture, she has told that the Guru is one who connects you to the almighty. So who makes your connection with God is the true Guru. The Guru who directly or indirectly ask for money he is a beggar and the person who have the knowledge of God he did not beg for money.
So in our Sahaj yoga we have seen that there is no transaction of money. You are taking this interview in 2017 and I have been associated with this since 1989, so you can see that there is an interval of 28 years. So when any new person come they have the tendency to donate money while Aarti is done. So we are very careful about this, we take that money and very respectfully we return it to them and tell them that here money is not accepted. You can give flower or prasadam which will be distributed among all the people here. So the things that are in nature like air, water fire these are God’s creation and we do not pay for it. So this Sahaj yoga is a big gift to the mankind, which God has gifted us for self-realisation. And your human life is for that only. So that you can get self-realization in this life only. And the person who can understand the fact that how fortunate we are to get this human life and how important is to utilise it properly, and there is only one way to utilise it properly that is through self-realization in this life only. And it happens only when your Kundalini Shakti is awakened. So whenever I get the chance I tell my brothers that it is not late yet if you don’t know about Sahaj yoga, there are 150 countries in the world where it is practised and in our India, we have 3000 centres in cities and villages all together.
Interviewer: And these are free of cost?
Mr K.K. Agarwal: Absolutely, no transaction.
Interviewer: And religion and caste?
Mr K.K. Agarwal: No caste no religion no barrier, there are many places where they do not take money but later they insisted on getting a membership card. There is nothing hidden here everything is free. And your heart and mind open up such that God himself asks you to “ask for a something”.
It happened many times during Shri Mataji’s discourses that few people always come and ask Shri Mataji that “if we do this, will our economic situation will improve?” then mother would reply them “if you have come here thinking of this, then it is very wrong” ” if you have come here for money then you are in wrong place, you will only have satisfaction”
Interviewer: Which is the biggest problem nowadays.
Mr K.K. Agarwal: No matter if you have lakhs and crores, your “want” will never be satisfied. The person who have five factories he dreams of the sixth. And the person who have five cars he dreams of the sixth car, but he does not get the satisfaction. Mother always told that “you will get satisfaction, never your important works will stop, so we do not make people rich, we make people Lakshmiwan” you will have the qualities of Lakshmi, which is soft and tender like lotus flower which gives you satisfaction, money and assurance.
So I think the world’s biggest power is in Sahaj yoga which is free but yes you have to have a pure heart.
Interviewer: The biggest problem of the families or society, is that whatever we do throughout our life the empire that we build whatever we earn is finally we are making it for our children or our country or for our society we can see that problems in our society is increasing. The condition of our children are worsening, use of drugs is increasing. So I would like to ask you that what are the changes that you witnessed in children’s who do Sahaj yoga, as we were talk about these 28 years, your children’s must be doing Sahaj yoga now.
Mr K.K. Agarwal: Although our family is very big, some live in the different city and here in Delhi when we joined Sahaj yoga we were husband, wife and our four children lived together. And in this 28 years my family progressed to two generations. All my children got married, their wives came. And they all have two children. And all our grandchildren do meditation because from their childhood they have seen us meditating, that is their grandfather and grandmother do meditation.
Interviewer: When your children’s used to do meditation what the difference that you noticed in them and other children in the society?
Mr K.K. Agarwal: See whether the children go to school or college the biggest fear that we have is that their character does not get worse. So that they do not smoke a cigarette.
Interviewer: Yeah it is so big tension.
Mr K.K. Agarwal: And especially in cities like Delhi we always fear that if the children are going to college they may not get into some bad company. So they do not get into some kind of addiction. I can challenge anybody that all our children do not take even pan and bidi, let alone cigarette and drinks.
Interviewer: Does it happen with every child who is in Sahaj?
Mr K.K. Agarwal: Yes absolutely, only if they are Sahaj Yogi. You see there are two things in Sahaj also, in today’s date there are lots of people whom we have witnessed to have a positive change in their life, and seeing me there are there are thousands of people who have joined Sahaj yoga, why they have joined? because seeing me, a person who doesn’t believe anybody that easily. And he is a very stubborn nature. And unless he tests it out he is not going to believe it blindly.
So when he is believing that means there is something to it. And so they joined seeing this. And they are getting great benefit from it, people who are very much addicted are giving up their addiction. So when people used to come in the beginning used to say “I don’t think I could give up smoking, I smoke five packets of cigarette a day” you see there are two things “You don’t want to give up smoking? or you can’t gave up the addiction” and if you do not want to give up there is no point in meditating here but if you think that I want to give up but the addition but I am unable to do so” then you must meditate Sahaja Yoga, and within few days you will not able to smoke cigarette.
There is a chartered accountant who is also my friend he was a heavy chain smoker you can say that he lighten up cigarette from another cigarette. So his wife came to me, and said “He is going to Sahaja Yoga but there is no reduction in his smoking, so Agarwal Ji what to do you have told that he will give up smoking” I said to her “you see there must be something lacking in us only, because Mataji is giving with open arms but the one who needs is lacking the wish to gave up” so she said “I will bring him here tomorrow, don’t tell him that I have said everything to you” and she came again tomorrow.
So I asked the Mister chartered accountant “If you had given up smoking?” he told me “I won’t lie, I could not give up smoking cigarette”. I asked “what is it, that you do not want to give up or you can’t give up?” he said “I wanted to” so I told him to give this cigarette to me and pray to Mataji that “Shri Mataji I want to give up smoking and give me a blessing so that I can get rid of this addiction” but he completely refused to do so. He said “cigarette smoking is the only addition that I do, when I reach the office I have smoke with my clients, with my officers, my income tax officers, so it is the cigarette through which I make connections with them, and without them my life will be very much colorless” then I said “Then you don’t to leave it, if you think that cigarette is the only thing through which your occupation is running then no one can make you get rid off cigarette” then he said “no I want to get rid of it, I have developed problems because of it I have diabetes there is this bad smell coming out of my mouth”
I said “Then you have to make a true decision, if you take a true decision then either you can become a true Sahaj yoga and you will get self-realization and if your Kundalini is awakened then even if you wanted to smoke cigarette you couldn’t be able to do so.
So like that, I tried to make sense with him. The next day he called me “Agarwal Ji I will die if you do not allow me to smoke a cigarette, you kept my cigarette in front of mother, so please give me the permission to smoke also I would not leave Sahaj yoga” then I give him permission to at least bring one cigarette from the market.
So he went to the market and bring one cigarette, but he started vomiting, coughing and he dropped that cigarette and it was that day and now it is today and he haven’t touched cigarette since, he stopped smoking cigarette. In lectures of Shri Mataji we had heard her saying “I go to foreign countries, I see people drink alcohol like we drink tea. And as we offer tea to a guest likewise they offer drinks. And if I request everybody to give up drinking then everybody will leave the discourse, and no one would accept Sahaj yoga, so in foreign tours I never request them to give up drinking, I only say to them to meditate and to do Sahaj yoga” either they will give up drinking or Sahaj yoga in few days. And all the people who are practicing Sahaj yoga including all the people in 150 Nation are like white paper there is no spot in their character, neither they drink alcohol nor do they smoke a cigarette, and this is also true for children. They went to college, they joined new professions and no children have any addiction, they deal with big companies and they will not reject them but they have a great dislike for alcohol, in fact they’re much famous for it, no one offers them drink. Otherwise there are people who without any drinks doesn’t want to initiate a discussion. Means if you have a personality, your preferences are different, your personality is different and people can definitely recognize the difference in you.
Interviewer: It is always said that that which you can see is the proof. Sahaj yoga is such a tradition such a family which was started from 1970, which was established by our Reverend Shri Nirmala Devi Mataji with a handful of peoples, now the whole world has progressed to this field. We have had discussions with Mr Agarwal, you can see that Mr Agarwal’s phone number is also given in the screen below. We only serve truth and therefore we try to present that if by doing meditation for a little bit of time, also walking in the path of a truth if we can Triumph over all our problems in life so that time that we have spent in this will be very less compared to what we get. Viewers we will carry on this conversation, guests will change but every changed person, every new person who join this conversation with us somewhere down the line without saying anything he tells us many things, that: You cannot sell the truth. You cannot shop a Guru, you cannot buy values with money, there something which is inside us. What is needed is that for a person to introspect to connect with that truth which Shri Mataji has made an easier in this yuga. In this Kali Yuga, we can assume that it is a starting of Satya Yuga. Mr Agarwal, you have given us your valuable time.
Now we would like you to give to our viewers, a message on why they should be doing Sahaj yoga?
Mr K.K. Agarwal: As I feel that the experiences that I have you should understand that Sahaj yoga is the Maha Yoga of today. If you do this you do not have to invest money in this, not even you have to give your time. I am talking about not giving the time because once you practice it once you sow its seeds inside you as a seed placed inside Earth germinate when it’s time comes, and after germination it becomes a tree, and it gets laden with fruits and there comes the seed inside that fruit and that will help the grow another tree.
Similarly our process in Sahaj yoga is like that Shri Mataji had given us self-realization as a burning candle that can lit up thousands of unlit candles and in this way Sahaj yogi can give self-realization to thousand of peoples. In this Yuga, this is the greatest boon that has been given by Shri Mataji, if you come to Sahaj yoga you can treat yourself as well as your family members, your friends.
You can solve the problems of other people because your connection is now with the truth. Now in this Kali Yuga, you are like a lotus amidst of the mud-filled pond. As the mud cannot touch the lotus and while living in this Era of evil and you will be living clean like a lotus and the whole world will look at you, this feeling of happiness it cannot be expressed through words. Because it is the inner joy and you have to feel it. So it is our request that at least for once you must go to any of the nearest centres and know about it in details. And if you feel that it is a sacred thing, pure thing and it is something that will change your life positively then you practise it in your life.
We are not asking for money from you. This is the only chance that you have got if you miss this opportunity, I fear if this proverb may come true, Ab pachhtaye hot Kya Jab Chidiya chug Gayi Khet (it is no good crying over spilt milk).
Please do not be late, you join it and be happy and be at peace, and if you have any problem, and if you doubt about how much truth that I am telling then there is a phone number that is given, you can call me at any time you are very much welcome, you can come you can tell me your problems, be it physical or mental or economics or spiritual because there is nothing higher than this.
Shri Mataji have given the solution to all of this, while living in this yoga in this body you have to make this body as much purified so that in coming years people may remember you and your house may filled with happiness, may your family do great progress and your city and your country, and if all the countries of all the world became like this then there is no doubt that there is very less time left when we will be witnessing Satya Yuga.
Interviewer: Viewers this is our meeting with Sri K.K Agarwal Ji who is a resident of Delhi, 28 years ago he chose this way of Dharma(righteousness), have progressed in this way of truth and as a result of which he and his family and you have listened how he got this truth and how he maintained this truth, achieved blissful life.
Next time we will be meeting a new person it may also happen that we may also sit with Agarwal Ji again talking more about his experiences in this 28 years. This program will continue with the aim of learning new things from the experiences of others, we may find many things to change our lives, to embellish it. We have only one objective that there must be someone, somewhere who’s problems whose aim, the purpose will be like Agarwal Ji and he might also achieve his purposes and aims in his life and lead a good and peaceful life. This is all for today please give us permission. Namaskar.