Narrator: Viewers you are once again welcome to this show whose name is Sahaja Yoga a unique Discovery and a gift to mankind. Friends today we will be meeting Dr Aradhana Jindal who is a principle in a renowned school in Ambala, let us come and know how Dr Aradhana Ji adopted Sahaja Yoga and how Sahaja Yoga adopted her.
Interviewer: Viewers you are all welcome in this special presentation of News Dnn, Sahaj Yoga a unique Discovery and a gift to mankind. It is such a journey where you get the opportunity to know yourself and understand and to identify in this busy life where we have time for everything except for ourselves. Every Traveller who joins us in this journey not only he joins us but also join you with themselves. Such a spiritual journey which was started in 1975 by our Param Pujya Shri Nirmala Devi Ji which have become a force and in this regard, we will be meeting doctor Aradhana Jindal.
Aradhana Ji you are most welcome in the News Dnn’s Studio. Aradhana ji by profession is an architect, she’s also a professor, serving as principal in degree college. We will listen to her about her occupational identity and like every time we will ask her about her spiritual life how it started but before that, we will ask her about her occupational identity? How difficult it is for an educated person to come and realise spirituality and to bring that in their life.
Mrs Aradhana: But before beginning, I did like to thank you, Vivek Ji, you for inviting me here. As you have told that Sahaj yoga is a starting of spiritual journey and you have asked me what is my profession and when my journey started. I did my graduate degree from Roorkee in 1989 which is now famously known as IIT Roorkee. I did a lot of practice in Ambala with my husband in Jindal Consortium firm. And I was searching for something maybe where this journey started. When I was merely a kid and in my faded memory of the past, I could recall that I knew something about Kundalini Shakti. My parents used to take me to different temples, I hardly bowed down my head in any temple. But there was always a quest to know who is God, where he lives? What he does? Where he comes from and where is its end? and where we will find it? and what is the experience of it and that quest was increasing. When I reached college I had 5 years degree course, there I used to talk about Kundalini Shakti with my friends and I used to say them that inside us there is an energy if we can awaken it then we can become very powerful, maybe I had some misconception at that time but I am surprised by the fact that from where I did get to know this thing. My parents didn’t have any knowledge about this nor did my friends know about this, it was my inner quest and because of this I never bowed down in front of any Idol. I used to say to my mother “Why you are worshipping? What you are getting from this idol?, and from this worship? and sometimes she used to get angry and used to say “how you can speak like that?”
Anyhow that journey continued and as I was by profession an architect there were many challenges in my profession. Like taking payments from clients to work for them and later getting criticized for my work, well no problem it is a part of a professional engagement. But that spiritual quest/ seeking was on and for that, I visited many gurus and left them go out for another and this happened for many times but couldn’t stick to any place. I will not mention anybody’s name it is a television show, once it so happened that at that time I was Pretty young of 28 years of age, Guruji had come from Kurukshetra Karnal and he was talking a lot about the soul and God and I said to my husband to take me there so we went together I felt really good listening to him. He was talking about connecting to our souls to God, but they were merely sentences. So the next day was there last day, so when I came outside after listening to his lecture on spirituality. So there were three people who were sitting in the counter outside they were wearing Saffron Robes and one among them said that “he is an advocate from Bareilly and he left his job his house and went for searching truth” and instantly a question came in my mind that, why it is important to renounce your house for searching the truth?
Interviewer: Very true.
Mrs Aradhana: There is no need to leave your house for searching the truth. I was very young at that time, only 28 years old but there was always a seeking inside me, so it came out from my mouth suddenly that “Have you got the truth?” so he became agitated, very much agitated that he said “you are too young to ask this question from me” I said “this is not my destination” so I came from there, so it was not the correct place where I was seeking the truth. So a fest was arranged in Chandigarh there were few books so I asked them the books which are written by your spiritual Guru and the experiences that he have written in this books, how did he achieve this experiences?
So they replied “to get that experience it is not necessary to marry” so it was a big blow to me. Means what is happening? Why it was happening? Whatever is written in the name of spirituality there was no mention of getting connected to God, only they were writing but no one is telling the way of getting connected with God and no talk of that experience. So like that, I read many books of many Gurus and while reading them I used to feel something and I used to throw them. And that journey continued. And my husband used to be my companion because I was very much fascinated to see new things and try new things out and as I was searching in the field of spirituality, my husband took me to where I wanted. When I saw the posters of Kundalini Jagran, I felt the urge to go there as I feel that this must be the place where I could get my answers. So it contains mothers photos. And she was very much attracted to me. So I thought “who is this lady who has this kind of radiance” as I have told you that my husband has been a partner in my spiritual journey. So I told my husband that this program was going to happen on 26 January and which was organised in a hall which was a little far from our colony in Chima palace, let us go there. As 26 January is a holiday, we three couples they were our past friends and their wives, so we went all together six people,a very interesting incident happened when we were about to enter, there was Mr Ranjan whose house was designed by us many years ago. So he was standing there, and out of great curiosity I asked him “What is Kundalini and how it is awakened and what happened during its awakening so I asked him “will I get awakening today?” so he started laughing he said “Didi you please sit, and experience yourself”. So we sat inside and had the experience and we have Dr Rajesh present there who is a singer in our Sahaj.
I remember this incidence though it was over 16 years ago that when I went home all our couple friends they came with us in our house for having tea and while I was making the tea I felt that today my mind is very quiet. Why it is so quiet? So at that moment, I felt that there was something that happened in reality. There was not a single thought that was there in mind it is as if there was a vacuum that was created I said “for such a long time that thing I was searching, I am getting the feeling that I have got it” but it was just starting of that spiritual journey, the process hasn’t completed yet. Next day was the follow-up and I requested my husband to come, he agreed. Mr Agarwal was the coordinator of our state, Haryana. He took the follow-up program, previous day 200 people were present but on follow up day only 20-30 people turned up. As I have told you that I am an architect so I have a great analytical mind if I am in Sahaj today it wasn’t that simple I have done great analysis, logical analysis and then fitting the equations upon it and again finding the answer then again putting the equation– so there is a big story behind it for doing all these things and because of which I got this spirituality.
So Mr Agarwal told me to ask any question, I asked him one question which I remembered till now that “From where did God came, who made him and where he lives and what is it ends?” so he couldn’t answer this question. Do I haven’t got the answer to my question but somewhere I had stability inside my mind so I was enjoying that. So what happened after that was, there was Mrs Mahajan who was the coordinator of our Ambala centre, so my journey started gradually and I used to visit her home after coming from the office where I did my regular practice. And questioning her mindless things I think I had more than 1000 questions in my mind regarding God.
Interviewer: After you came to Sahaj.
Mrs Aradhana: More than 1000 questions, why it happens so, why? why? why?… And this “why?” thing was always revolving around my mind, it was boiling inside. She was a very cool lady, for me Mrs Mahajan was a important ladder to reach God. First six months I annoyed had her too much with my silly questions but she give only one answer “you will get it in your meditation” and it was very awkward for me, “how I can get answer in meditation?” they used to say that you will feel cool vibrations in your hands, sometimes. I feel that the fan was giving the cool vibrations, my mind was not at peace and that journey continued, I went to center lot of times, I did a lot of hard work to gain spiritual enlightenment, as people say that our left side is responsible for logical thinking so my left side was super active because it search for logic daily Behind every activity that why it is happening? Mrs Mahajan used to say that “even I do not have any answers you will get it yourself in meditation” but fortunately as my meditation progressed gradually I started getting the answers.
Interviewer: Aradhana ji we would like to ask you a question on behalf of our audience that in today’s time there are several ways of meditation are talked about and people who are following those ways or techniques they think that it is the only way it is the only truth. We do not want to hurt sentiments of others because everybody has their own point of view in regard of Almighty God and thought process of their own. There is a time when we join Sahaja Yoga and there comes a time when our questions are not answered, how was that journey?
Mrs Aradhana: It was very interesting, today in Ambala Centre people talk about me that she is only one Sahaj Yogi who had thousands of questions in her mind. And she didn’t get Sahaj that easily. She got it after lot of struggle. So when a new Sahaj Yogi come I can give answer to their question because during my intial journey I had so many questions and now somewhere I have all the answers in my mind.
Interviewer: It is there inside you?
Mrs Aradhana: Seekers come daily and they have–
Interviewer: What is the biggest difference that you felt, like when you told that when your Kundalini Jagran happened through self-realization was given to you like you have told that when you went to make tea your mind was very quiet. Was that tranquillity temporary or permanent? and also what was that binding force that motivated you to continue Sahaja Yoga?
Mrs Aradhana: The binding force was the feeling of peace that I found while doing meditation so that was my binding force. Previously I had thoughts popping up in my head continuously but what was happening now was when I used to sit in meditation and that moment I become quiet.
Interviewer: And its impact on other…
Mrs Aradhana: Gradually it was impacting my life. At that time my children very young, I was very new in Sahaj at that time and me and my husband had a fight over something and it got out of proportion, up to that point I didn’t have any belief in astrology so I picked mine and my husband’s horoscopes and went to pandit ji. And I took the horoscope of my elder son, it never happened before that I had shown my horoscope to anybody, never, however my father used to believe in astrology a lot but I never did it. After seeing the horoscope of my son he said that “it is not good, it is not good”. And I started crying I asked “what is that?” but he didn’t say anything more. So I went to other four pandits and everybody said the same thing. I came home and my husband told me that “you ladies have a habit of making a mountain of a molehill” so I said to him that you take me to another Pandit he was our family astrologer, he also said the same thing. Then I went to Mrs Mahajan the next day and asked her what could be done? She said “Surrender, there is nothing that you can do. There is nothing that you have in your hand, can you change somebody’s life? Can you add to his life? Can you change the destiny? You let him be on mother feet” I came home and said to my husband, that I want that Manu (it’s my son’s name), will do meditation and he at once agreed. And my son when he sat in front of Mataji he surrendered immediately, with him my younger son also started doing meditation, my servant who never got any realisation he got realisation immediately after he sat in front of mother’s picture. So we all news to sit in front of mother’s picture, so what happened was gradually the thought, the worry about my eldest son go away. Also the worry that, they have to read properly, they have to score marks, why their marks were deducted though they are very intelligent. I could see the changes inside me and all of these worries and thoughts started decreasing regarding my children. So I didn’t care about the marks, they are studying as they should so I have no problem with their marks. So the level of stress was reduced.
In 2002 I got realization and in 2004 the problems in my household become more. So I just thought that people used to say that by doing meditation your life becomes easier and beautiful but here it is happening opposite. But here the relationships are deteriorating. So I was facing problems in my house household and in 2006 the climax came. So I thought that if I am connected to God then why all my problems are not getting solved? I used to practice with my husband, we together build many projects, multi storage buildings, medical colleges, engineering colleges we did a lot of work. 2006 was the time when my problem reached its peak and I became depressed but I didn’t leave meditation. The best part was I get a little peace whenever I did meditation in the morning and evening.
And after that, the whole story changed in 2007 a big turn came into my life and I went to my parents and lived there for three-four months. I joined Consultancy jing services as DGM, but because of meditation somehow my life was rolling. There was no obstruction in that life but I was thinking way it happened to me? You wouldn’t believe me that my life’s worst phase was when I was in meditation for three years. And now I realise that I got meditation because this worst phase was about to come. Just to make myself composed, to make myself balanced maybe because of meditation I was able to save my life.
Interviewer: We always have a question to god– we are interesting Aradhana Ji. We always ask this question that “oh God I believe in you but then also why this thing happen with me” we should have faith that while we are facing troubles in life God is there with us it was bound to happen, but the good part is that as God was there with us our lives didn’t get imbalanced. We didn’t entangle in any problem but we are able to get ourselves away from it. To meet God to get God no matter from which religion we belong only one thing which is most important is in whichever path we walk we must have full faith in it. Before choosing a path one should think and consider beforehand but after choosing that path, when adverse conditions come along we should not refrain from that path rather we should keep the faith that who has made us he can drive us and can take care of us.
In most of our conversations, people use to remind of their good past only and generally more so when we come to a spiritual organisation people create a hype by saying that “all my life was spent in splendid condition” though it very good thing but it can never happen that life went smoothly all the time. So as we have four seasons in a year so it is obvious that those four seasons will definitely come.
Mrs Aradhana: Absolutely it is written in your destiny and you have to look live your destiny.
Interviewer: Even if we do not talk with that perspective. If it had doesn’t happen our life would have become very monotonous. If there is a scorching Sun outside then we can feel the coldness of air cooler and if rain falling then only we could appreciate the presence of a roof. So these are part of life and we have to accept them. So the journey that you have started adversities came along, you came to Sahaj in 2002 and again in 2007 you started to begin a normal life with your family after all the problems are solved. So there are two phases of your life that are this tough 5 years and the happy period that started after 2007. You have told us about how Sahaj yoga helped you in those 5 years, so what it did in your good times.
Mrs Aradhana: Talking about 2007 whenever I used to talk with any Sahaj yogi they always replied me that “everything will become ok”, so I used to think “when everything will become ok? How it will become ok?”
It is obvious that there is not going to happen any miracle overnight and it will become alright. But I knew that in those tough three years that God has given me great strength. I was very astonished that I was such a weak-hearted woman. It is true that problems were coming in my life but they were like blessings in disguise they were coming so that my heart can becomes strong. Previously I was a little afraid of people, society now that was changing too. Now I was started taking stand. Previously I was little afraid of taking any stand if I take any stand I used to think “What society will tell? What family will think? What he will think?” and automatically once my heart become strong, I took a stand and after I took the stand my life became 1000 percent better than it was previously. I was in Delhi I was doing a job so my son used to ask me to come. When he start crying and being a mother– It was very Deepavali and mother also came there it was 2007 and I took the decision that I have to go, I have to go. My father said “no you will not go” I said, “no I have to go”. And after that automatically someone came to me and give me a proposal for joining academics. And I cried a lot that day, means I had build a lot of buildings how can I be in academics? So anyhow I joined Academics I worked as an assistant professor in Chitkara in Rajpura for three years. While remaining there I completed my master degree that was also a struggling time and opportunities came along the way one after another, I became head of the department, I was offered the post of Principal at MM School of Architecture and I accepted that. And you see that so many paths were opened in front me. I could not understand what was happening to me everything was happening automatically my life became 1000 per cent better, and I had the conviction that God is with me. Now if anything happens I have this Assurance that God is with me and she will take care of it.
Interviewer: Aradhana ji I have one question, whatever you have said, where did that Aradhana ji went who had thousands of questions in her mind?
Mrs Aradhana: She is dead.. [Laugh]
Interviewer: As you have told that several avenues opened in front of you but what about the spiritual tranquillity or peace we want to know about that. Because there are many peoples in our society for them God directly equates to prosperity in social level and wealth. They say that “God has given us many things” and when you question them “what God has given you?” they say “God has given us child, wife, good money, cars and what do you need”.
Apart from all these things what Sahaja Yoga have given you?
Mrs Aradhana: “What Sahaj yoga has not given me?” you should I ask that instead. You see my life–
Interviewer: From a spiritual point of view.
Mrs Aradhana: Yes from spiritual point of view previously I had lot of desire like I have to get it, I have to get fame I have to get respect. Though it was not in a huge quantity. From beginning I was very content as a child but yes I had desires, but spirituality when I get connected to God when my Sahasrara was opened and as we know Sahaj yoga is a dynamic meditation ‘dynamic’ because when you do meditation you get connected to almighty God and so it reduced all my materialistic desires gradually. I remember a story that Radha ask Shri Krishan Ji “Hey Prabhu, why do you love your flute so much and you always keep it with yourself and literally touch it with your lips” so Shri Krishan Ji tells “I love this flute as it is hollow and whatever Rhythm and Raag I wanted to play through it, it plays that Raag only”. So that was the biggest transformation of my life. That when you realise that spirituality doesn’t mean to gain anything, the real meaning of spirituality is to become zero just like a flute to become hollow. I am not saying that I have become completely hollow. My journey is still going on, still there is time to reach the destination, and why should we bother about the destination when the journey itself is so beautiful that every day I found a new gem. I have told you about my life. The ups and the downs were inevitable it was bound to happen whether I would have been in Sahaj yoga or not, the benefit that I had that I was able to cope the toughest period of my life because of the seeking tendency that I had for God. And it has brought me to a position where now I only think of society and I have told you that I do not know think of myself. I do not want anything, absolutely zero. Recently I had my 50th birthday I was telling my husband that I didn’t feel the urge to ask for anything there is nothing I want now. I am not telling this because I am sitting in front of television. You can ask my family members friends or anybody now the purpose of my life is to share whatever I got in my life, the content and feeling of tranquility that I got after connecting to God I want to help true seekers of God so that they could realise their wish. There are many seekers who say “I have all the things in life so why should I meditate” so I feel laughing but at the same time I feel that he is ignorant he doesn’t have the knowledge that’s why I should connect to God. See this is the last stage of evolution and in this last stage we have to become Superhuman from human, we all have to become that, maybe someone become earlier than other. Any how we will reach that stage, the mother has begun this journey in 1970 she went to many countries and give realisation to thousands of peoples and she didn’t keep that to herself but she said that you are your own Guru. So the work she did she had given the responsibility of doing the same to all of us and the same work is being done by her children throughout the world. So, therefore, the purpose of my life, whatever it is in my capacity because I am not the doer If God can make me do work for the society as I have told you that I have two parts of my career in the first part I have build so many buildings lot of designing, earn money and fame. But the second part is really wonderful now I’m in Academics you see there are so many students and they are all from the age group of 19-21. You see today’s youth involve in so many vices. And incidentally, I am the dean of student welfare of our university. And I get cases on the daily basis that someone has taken drugs, someone else drinking habit now I have only one mission in life that is youth transformation. So that a large quantity of youth can become transformed and they can connect to god, I do not impose it on anybody when our college is closed in 4 p.m. We gather around and do meditation with any quantity of students we had four or five or even nine any quantity. My students are very close to my heart they tell me their secrets. Like mam “I smoked a cigarette it happened” ” mam I had a little drink, it happened” I always say them that all the solutions of your problems are meditation I can’t do anything for you, I am not the doer whatever will happen to you will happen after you come to spirituality.
As she has told that every human being has to become a Superhuman now and then. So it is a journey which will start. For some it has already started, for some, it will start tomorrow, for some, it will start a little later it is a cycle of evolution. So we are going through that process. Now I have got a purpose in this life. But I am leading my life I am not wearing any Saffron robes. In many places we see people wearing white clothes or Saffron clothes then I question myself why? there is nothing in clothes your heart has to be pure for example Raja Janak he was Vydehi(one without body) but he was a king. So all our journey should have the destination that we can all become Vydehi. Ok, whatever achievements that we have got, its ok it will happen, God, have to work through us. So we all are going on a journey where everybody has to do some different works but if all of us are connected to the almighty god that work becomes beautiful and God’s love become mixed with it. You couldn’t believe that the houses and buildings that I am now designing but I don’t know where the beauty is coming from, also I designed the interior so the beauty that is coming to the creation is coming from God. Ultimately we are not the doer we are all part of that energy and its medium to spread his love.
Interviewer: Very beautiful, this was the meeting that we had with Aradhana ji. Without speaking anything she have given us so many insights. What the journey is? Where we have to reach? and what we have to get? Everything is residing inside us only one thing that is needed is when will that quest begin inside us that “oh God who I am?”. Audience this journey will continue like this Travellers will change but its objective will not change that: What we have to get? Before we go we like to thank Aradhana ji that you have given your precious time and we thank you very much for the love and respect that you have giving us, and viewers we hope that in this small journey somehow you will be able to find your aim and objective of life, thank you.
Narrator: With increasing journey and with new travellers who are connected to our lives that is the objective. We hope that the conversation that you have seen and heard we had with Aradhana ji will definitely help you in your life. We will soon meet with some new personality until then Namaskar.